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Islam is one of the “heretic” Christian-Jewish sects: A challenge…

Posted on: February 24, 2010

Islam is one of the “heretic” Christian-Jewish sects,(Feb. 23, 2010)

A challenge to all theologians and social scientists

Before Emperor Constantine, who established Constantinople as Capital for the Roman Empire in the Orient (called Byzantium Empire) around 315 AC, there were hundreds of Christian sects in the Middle East.  Each sect had its dogma and its Bible (there were hundreds of versions).

The belief systems of these Christian sects differed greatly in the divinity of Jesus, the resurrection, the Holy Spirit, the status of the Virgin Mary (many would not even mention her name since women were considered impure), the status of Judas Iscariot, the rites, the language, the daily rituals, the status of the Old Testament, the communion of the flesh, the age to baptizing new converts, and to which race to focus on.

Many sects obeyed the laws of the Old Testaments in their integrity and many refused to adopt the Old Testament as part of their belief systems.

The Council of Nicaea (on the shore of Turkey) in 325 made things even worse: Constantine wanted to unify all the Christian sects into a religion of the Empire.  The notion of three Gods into one (Father, son, and Holy Ghost) were forced upon the sects as well as the Sanctity of Mary and many abstract concepts wrapped into the Credo.

Any sect that refused the unified Orthodox dogma, of the Emperor in power  at the time, was labeled “heretic” and was persecuted.  It turned out that, for over 70 years, successive Emperors were in favor of one or another “heretic” belief system, and a few emperor reverted to paganism.

Around the year 400, another Emperor reverted to the Orthodox dogma and the persecutions resumed and even intensified.  The heretic sects fled to beyond the Euphrates River under the dominion of Persia Empire and spread to the Arabic Peninsula and reached India and China.

Prophet Mohammad was from a clan that believed in one of these Christian-Jewish heretic sects that were established in Mecca; the father of Mohammad was a convert and his uncle was the Patriarch of the Christian sect.

In the year 1000, another schism took place between the Bishop of Rome (Catholic) and the Bishop of Constantinople (Orthodox) and another wave of persecution of heretic sects got under way.

The various Protestant “heretic” sects in the 16th century are but the latest in the variety of Christian sects and offshoot of ancient heretic Christian sects.

All that Prophet Muhammad did was to drop the abstract notions in the Orthodox dogma and to adopt the common denominator belief system of the various heretic Christian-Jewish sects in the Arabic Peninsula, Syria, and Iraq.

Thus, Islam combined the Old Testament integrally and the version of New Testament read by the Jewish-Christians sect, the Ebionites, of Mohammad’s tribe in the Mecca: the Patriarch of this sect was one of Muhammad’s uncles.

The Ebionites sect was fundamentally a Jewish sect that attached the teachings of Jesus (another Prophet) to the Old Testament.  This sect considered St.Paul as a heretic because he opened the religion to the “gentiles”.

Historical facts prove that the early Christians, and particularly the illiterate disciples lead by Jack, the eldest brother of Jesus, who conglomerated in Jerusalem were very conservative Essenism Jews:  Jesus was their Rabbi and they tried to follow his message.

When Peter finally marched out of Jerusalem it was to follow on the trail of Paul in order to dismantling Paul’s Christian communities and converting them to the Jewish laws.  Paul had to tone down his discourse and adopt a few Jewish social laws in order to counter the vehement practical attacks of the “Jerusalem sect of Christians“.

Islam became the unified Christian-Jewish heretic sect opposing the Orthodox Christian Church in Constantinople.  It is no surprise that the heretic Christians in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, and Palestine rallied and supported Islamic troops  against Byzantium and Persia.

After Constantinople fell in around 1450 to the Ottoman Empire, many of the non-Moslem Christian sects united politically to the Catholic Church in Rome, even though their dogma did not mesh nicely with the Catholic Credo.

Islam means submission (to God, the one and only).  I submit a challenge to all theologians, religious researchers, and philosophers of all religious denominations (monolithic or not).

My hypothesis is: The religious message of the Prophet Muhammad, during the first 13 years of proselytizing in Mecca, is identical to one of the Christian-Jewish sects. Let me suggest the following procedure or protocol:

First, select all the religious Christian sects till the Council of Nicaea in 325; and then select the Christian sects after Nicaea until the year 400.

Continue the selection process of the sects after the split between Rome and Byzantium around the year 1000, then go over the Christian sects that were formed between 1000 to the Martin Luther schism, all the way to the modern Christian sects from Protestantism, Calvinism, Baptism, Methodism, Episcopalian, Armenians (Catholic and Orthodox), and all the sects in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and elsewhere.

Second, develop taxonomy of attributes in order to categorize all these Christian sects.

Third, allocate all the sects to one of six categories or more if need be.

Fourth, select the verses in Islam that correspond to the period of 13 years in Mecca, before the flight of the Prophet Muhammad to Medina (Yathreb) and the establishment of the first City-State of Islam

Five, assign each verse in that period to the taxonomy of step two.

Six, allocate the message of the prophet Muhammad in one of the categories chosen in step three.

The foundation to my hypothesis stems from reading a manuscript titled “Islam in its two messages: Christ and Muhammad.”

The author of the book is late Antoun Saadeh, a Lebanese of Christian Geek Orthodox denomination.  The book was written in 1942 and Saadeh proves that Islam is almost identical to the message of Christ when we analyze the verses of the Koran pronounced during Muhammad proselytizing of his message before the legislation period for the new community in Medina.

Since Christianity is an amalgam of many sects that split into schisms in the last two thousand years, I figured that, from a scientific perspective, it would be more appropriate to differentiate Christianity according to sects.

It would also be fitting to study Islam by analyzing the various Moslem sects; though the variations would be based more on the legislation (Chari3a) and Hadith (stories on Muhammad) than the fundamental spiritual content during the first 13 years of the message in Mecca.

I suggest to start with four broad categories: Catholic, Orthodox, Christian-Jews, and Jewish-Christians.  The basic differences are in the adoption of the Old Testament as act of faith and social regulations to follow.

There are Christians who do not adopt the Old Testament in their act of faith neither intrinsically or even using it in preaching and its myths in rhetoric; other use Old Testament as act of faith but do not adopt the Jewish laws for daily rituals; others adopt the Jewish laws either partially or entirely.

For example, Islam and Jehovah Witnesses may be allocated within the Jewish-Christian category because they abide by the nomadic Jewish laws for daily behaviors.

Note:  I find many resemblance between St.Paul and the prophet Muhammad.  Both avatars of God had apparitions and revelations and did what they had to do to spreading the message.  Their message was to be universal:

1. Paul disseminated monotheism to the Mediterranean Sea basin (Roman and Byzantium Empires) and Mohammad spread monotheism to all of Asia (India, China, and Indonesia).

2. Paul’s method took 300 years to grabbing 10% share of the population; Mohammad’s method was more efficient, and rallied millions in just two decades.

5 Responses to "Islam is one of the “heretic” Christian-Jewish sects: A challenge…"

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A motivating discussion is worth comment. I think that you need to publish
more about this subject matter, it may not be a taboo subject but typically people don’t discuss such subjects.
To the next! Best wishes!!

I don’t discuss religious matters: they have no ends and you can’r convince anyone. I need to tackle their terrible consequences

A greek name “adonis” to mislead from understanding that the author is a muslim (as if it wasn’t obvious by the content of the page). And that islam is presented on this page, as spreading without war! See here for a long long long list of the aggressive conquests that spread islam from arabia to north africa, to pakistan and india, while taking pieces of europe too. All of which mentioned had been Christian countries attacked by aggressive muslims, excluding iraq and persia which were persian countries attacked by aggressive muslims, and india and pakistan which were I guess some kind of indian kingdoms. : http://www.catholicbible101.com/thecrusades.htm

And secondly, the page makes a totally unsubstantiated claim, to give the impression Christianity was not founded on truth, given by Jesus Christ (in the gospels, which existed just decades after Christ in written form, and immediately in the time of him, in oral form.) The gospels all tell us that Jesus was crucified, died, buried, resurrected, and is the messiah, the Son of God, and divine. You only have to read them with an open mind, without a bias. And Christians were of one sect, with hierarchy, called bishops who are successors from the apostles, and were given the authority by Jesus. All the church all over the world, was following the apostles and the successors they gave authority to. These apostles shared one faith and would discuss when there was disagreement over theology but never over the core Christian beliefs which are the divinity of Christ, and his death for forgiveness of our sins, and his resurrection. All churches shared the same gospel, and beliefs of Jesus. They all looked to one hierarchy, of which the successor of Peter (bishop of Rome, as he ended his life there) is the visible and unifying head of the Church on earth. And yes they had sometimes additional or less books or letters that they read in church (which is what scripture, or bible, meant) until it was agreed on a particular canon that they would all use. Using or not using some locally favoured letters is okay, it didn’t change the beliefs. And after the canon was agreed, it was the canon everywhere in that true church.

All the Church followed the same authority of the successors of the Apostles, with the successor of Peter as their head. With the same one true gospel message, and beliefs. This true Church is the Catholic Church, you might like to do some research on it. Yes that Church split later, by Orthodox, and then Protestants, breaking away, mainly over the issue of some national groups, rejecting the authority of the successor of Peter, and wanting to be their own leader. That is against what Jesus instituted, of having one Church and one head, built on Peter. The Catholic Church has lasted, and is almost half of al Christianity. And fulfils the promise Jesus gave, that hell will not prevail against it, and it will last forever.

Yes there were some other people, who did not share Catholic Christian beliefs, at the beginning, and didn’t follow the authority. They were called heretics, they had nothing to do with Jesus and the true Church he founded. They were people with no authority, who made their own version of religion, that is not truth, it is just invention. Yes, it is similar to what Mohamed did later, he was indeed a heretic, because he was an inventor of his own version of religion, based on a little of truth from the true religion, but corrupting it with a lot of his own version.

Christianity is true, because Jesus is God who came to earth and became flesh, and dwelled among us, who died and rose again to prove he is the truth, and who founded his Church with a hierarchy of authority on the successor of Peter and his Apostles, and commanded them to go to all nations, baptising in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all that he commanded them. So that no one can be led astray from the truth by people inventing their own version of religion. He also warned them to beware of Anti Christs and False Prophets of who many will come. The truth is Jesus Christ (I am the way, the truth, and the life) and the true Church, and true teachings he gave to us, the truth in which we are kept, by his Apostles, and their successors.

Without authority given by Jesus Christ who is God who took on human flesh (Jesus, Christ, Lord, and Saviour, Son of God : all in the gospels), to Peter and the Apostles, or their successors. No other person has authority of truth in matters of God or his revelations to humanity.

Until Jesus Christ comes again in glory, there is no other authority except the authority of the successors of Peter and the Apostles, together in the Catholic Church.

Any others who claim authority from God, after Jesus’ ascension and until he comes again, are Anti Christs and False Prophets that he warned us about.

As for this page, the Catholic Church has the authority from Jesus God the Son, on earth. You or any other, does not have authority. And your opinion is not the truth, and is without authority.
God bless us. 🙂
Amen

did you read the article? or just the title? or maybe you have no idea what a heretic was meant to mean?

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