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Most Israeli Jews support Apartheid regime? Why?

Based on a sample of 503 interviewees, most of the Jewish public in Israel supports the establishment of an apartheid regime in Israel if it formally annexes the West Bank.

The survey shows that majority also explicitly favors discrimination against the state’s Arab citizens. The survey was conducted by Dialog  and commissioned by the Yisraela Goldblum Fund.

 published on Oct.23, 2012 in the daily Haaretz:

“The questions were written by a group of academia-based peace and civil rights activists. Dialog is headed by Tel Aviv University Prof. Camil Fuchs.

1. 59% of the Jewish public wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries.

2. 49% of the Jews want the State of Israel to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones;

3. 42% don’t want to live in the same building with Arabs

4. 42% don’t want their children in the same class with Arab children.

5. 33% of the Jewish public wants a law barring Israeli Arabs from voting for the Knesset

6. 69%  objects to giving 2.5 million Palestinians the right to vote if Israel annexes the West Bank.

7. 74% is in favor of separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank. (24% believe separate roads are “a good situation” and 50 percent believe they are “a necessary situation.”

8. 47% want part of Israel’s Arab population to be transferred to the Palestinian Authority

9. 36% support transferring some of the Arab towns from Israel to the PA, in exchange for keeping some of the West Bank settlements.

Although the territories have not been annexed, most of the Jewish public:

1. 58% already believes Israel practices apartheid against Arabs.

2. Only 31% think such a system is not in force here.

3. 38% of the Jewish public wants Israel to annex the territories with settlements on them, (while 48 percent object).

The survey distinguishes among the various communities in Israeli society – secular, observant, religious, ultra-Orthodox and former Soviet immigrants.

The ultra-Orthodox, in contrast to those who described themselves as religious or observant, hold the most extreme positions against the Palestinians. An overwhelming majority (83 percent ) of Haredim are in favor of segregated roads and 71 percent are in favor of transfer.

The ultra-Orthodox are also the most anti-Arab group :

1. 70 percent of them support legally barring Israeli Arabs from voting,

2. 82 percent support preferential treatment from the state toward Jews,

3. and 95 percent are in favor of discrimination against Arabs in admission to workplaces.

The group classifying itself as religious is the second most anti-Arab. New immigrants from former Soviet states are closer in their views of the Palestinians to secular Israelis, and are far less radical than the religious and Haredi groups.

However, the number of people who answered “don’t know” in the “Russian” community was higher than in any other.

The Russians register the highest rate of satisfaction with life in Israel (77 percent ) and the secular Israelis the lowest – only 63 percent.

On average, 69 percent of Israelis are satisfied with life in Israel.

Secular Israelis appear to be the least racist:

1. 68 percent of them would not mind having Arab neighbors in their apartment building,

2. 73 percent would not mind Arab students in their children’s class

3. and 50 percent believe Arabs should not be discriminated against in admission to workplaces.

The survey indicates that a third to half of Jewish Israelis want to live in a state that practices formal, open discrimination against its Arab citizens.

An even larger majority wants to live in an apartheid state if Israel annexes the territories.

The survey conductors say perhaps the term “apartheid” was not clear enough to some interviewees.

However, the interviewees did not object strongly to describing Israel’s character as “apartheid” already today, without annexing the territories. Only 31 percent objected to calling Israel an “apartheid state” and said “there’s no apartheid at all.”

In contrast, 39% believe apartheid is practiced “in a few fields”; 19 percent believe “there’s apartheid in many fields” and 11 percent do not know.

The “Russians,” as the survey calls them, display the most objection to classifying their new country as an apartheid state. A third of them – 35 percent – believe Israel does not practice apartheid at all, compared to 28 percent of the secular and ultra-Orthodox communities, 27 percent of the religious and 30 percent of the observant Jews who hold that view.

Altogether, 58 percent of all the groups believe Israel practices apartheid “in a few fields” or “in many fields,” while 11 percent don’t know.

Finally, the interviewees were asked whether “a famous American author [who] is boycotting Israel, claiming it practices apartheid” should be boycotted or invited to Israel. About half (48 percent ) said she should be invited to Israel, 28 percent suggest no response and only 15 percent call to boycott her.

Note 1: Apartheid originated from the liberal Israelis  https://adonis49.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/so-many-of-such-minorities-only-in-israel-counting-is-a-sacred-business/

Note 2Visualizing the Occupation: Israeli and Palestinian children in the eyes of the law
Photo: Visualising the Occupation: Israeli and Palestinian children in the eyes of the law

 

Toxic spitting in Bet Shemesh (Israel): 8 year-old girl Naama lived
It is becoming common habit for males in this State of Israel to spit on girls who don’t dress or act as the Talmud (or some other Books) demand from them to behave.
A girl is a girl, and it doesn’t matter if the woman is your mother or grandmother.
It cannot be worse if the girl is “goyim”:  Women are women and “unclean” until cleansed by the rabbi or the husband or the brother…
What difference with the Islamist salafists? Salafist at least respect the behavior of girls who didn’t reach the age of puberty (12 year-old?): The Dirty Blood is not seeping out yet!
Let us read this report:
Naama Margolis, an 8-year-old from Bet Shemesh, is the most famous girl in Israel today. In fact, nobody can stop talking about her.

And why is that?

On Friday evening, Naama told her story on the most watched news show in the country.

Interviewed by Channel 2’s Shai Gal, Naama told how she was afraid to go to school, just a few hundred meters from her house in Bet Shemesh, because Haredim Jews cursed and spit on her for being dressed “immodestly.”

The report, translated in full below, has sent Israeli public discourse on relations between secular and religious into a frenzy.

http://www.subber.com/embed.php?t=939c3b64adf77d6b544c97d1e885763d&l=1

Since the report, the Israeli Prime Minister (Netenyahu?) has spoken!  The Haredi Beit Shemesh Mayor has condemned i! Haredim in Beit Shemesh attacked a Channel 2 news team who came to town again on Sunday, and rioted when municipal workers took down signs calling for segregation between men and women.

Haredim in Beit Shemesh later put the signs back up.

Today, the city announced plans to put up 400 security cameras. (To do what? Filming with no active responses? The right-wing Orthodox Jews are the government! They are the army!)

The rabbis, not a single one said anything,yet.

What do you think they have to say? Women are at the same pedestal as men in front of Yahweh?

That modern Israeli State is a branch of western civilization? That segregation between blacks and white is different from segregating between women and men?..

Apparently, the rabbis don’t care. And why should they? It’s not like they do have to recognize the State or anything, and they don’t have to.

The invalid Haredi (mentally handicapped too?) who spoke from inside his car at the end of the item is actually right. Out of all the ignorance he spewed, he managed to say one correct thing at the end:

“All of Israel will be Haredi, and there’s nothing you can do about it.”  He’s about right with decades in the trend.

The numbers speak for themselves: (the recent surveys and statistics have demonstrated what the vast majority of Israelis stand for…) https://adonis49.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/israel-2011-less-democratic-and-far-more-sectarian-by-antoine-shalhat/

Actually, it makes the entire two-State (Palestinian and Israeli),or the alternative one-State discussion seem like a waste of time.

What does it matter when in a few decades, between the river and the sea, secular people of any nationality will be a small minority? Would you just have to choose your theocracy State to transfer to?” End of quote

(I don’t need development of what a Haredi is:  The title is clear in its action…)

Actually, the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are far more secular than the current Israeli social structure: 60 years of resistance against infamy, apartheid, racism, and now segregation between genders have polished their resistance to all kinds of indignities and value civic laws that prohibit discrimination based on gender, color, or religious beliefs…

Do you recall what was the comment of  Malcolm X (the Black US revolutionary of the 60’s) when president Kennedy was assassinated?

Malcolm X was fighting the good fight against this racist capitalist system in the USA, the Protestant Anglo White Capitalist system, and said: “Kennedy came home to roost“.  Meaning, the system corrected the small deviation by electing a Catholic, and a president who alarmed Israel by his frequent and consistent demand to have Israel’s nuclear installations inspected!

Has “Zionism come home to roost“? Do the western “civilization” propaganda media still have any guts to go on proclaiming Israel “The only democratic, liberal, and secular State in the Middle East“?

Note 1: I saw a recent picture of little Naama and her mother walking the street: They were both wearing long (black) pretty shabby coats, but no veils, yet.

Note 2: Read the recent Israel Peace Indicator survey  https://adonis49.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/does-the-majority-of-the-israeli-jews-know-what-it-wants-what-israel-peace-indicator-says/


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